Bad news coming from Iraq, conflict between the Shiite Muslim and Kurdish people over an election will likely postpone the election to February. This conflict violates Iraq's own constitution as well as jeopardizes Obama's own vow, to bring the U.S's troops back home by August 2010. This violates the Iraqi constitution because the Shiite Muslim and Kurdish legislators actually teamed up with one another to take seats away from the Sunnis. Although these actions may be put the constitutionality in question, these leaders do not seem concerned at all. One scary point that a Kurdish legislator stated was, "Nobody's applying the constitution anyways, we are in a mess now so it doesnt make much of a difference." This just furthers expresses the sectarian conflicts that could push Iraq into Civil war.
Here's the link.. i forget how to do the cool way so yea just c/p it.
http://www.latimes.com/news/nation-and-world/la-fg-iraq-vote24-2009nov24,0,4278351.story
I feel that the Shiite and Kurdish people's choice of teaming up against the Sunni is a very unwise one. They already know that if further conflicts against each sect could provoke a civil war. Also this is makes all the efforts of the U.S. seem wasteful. Many of the the soldiers have been there for a while now, and it seems that the Iraqis dont wanna fix their problem. The fact that the legislator said that they do not even follow their own constitution is scary.
Monday, November 23, 2009
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I think that the distraught that is occurring within the country is bad, but I also think that a big question is should US get involved in a civil war?
I just read the article and it's shocking that the lawmakers don't even seem interested in the crisis. It's also surprising that no one is applying the constitution. In addition, the article said that the election will most likely be moved to February. This is pretty irritating because that means the troops may not come back by August 2010.
I find it surprising that people find it surprising that the Shiites/Sunnies/Kurdish people aren't obeying the constitution. Here in the US, we obey and live by it because we wrote it and we agreed to it, we signed a social contract with the government. In Iraq, the situation is obviously different. These people have been in a constant struggle for power for ages and sharing it amongst all three sects isn't one of their top priorities. It may be for some of the legislators, and that's why they're in the so called government, but it's winning the people that will take the time. We do not need to be fighting the people, we need to talk to the people, show them peace, not anger them more. Am I advocating we leave? No, but I feel we definitely could have a better approach than just with guns and missiles. The home front will always win a war of time.
"Nobody's applying the constitution anyways, we are in a mess now so it doesnt make much of a difference."
It's that kind of attitude that makes people think about how "scary" this whole situation is. If no one is going to follow any sort of rules, Iraq will fall apart into total chaos. That will mean further involvement from the US.
I agree with Phoebe. It seems that if lawmakers aren't even going to try to do anything about the crisis, no one else will. Neither will they refer to anything in the Constitution. And it is rather sad, because all this will end up affecting the troops and when they can come back home will be delayed.
Excellent post Devin. I feel like the U.S. can only help Iraq to a certain extent, and now it has gotten too far that even if the U.S. tries to intervene, it'll only make the mess bigger.
I feel like we've been in Iraq too long, and the U.S. needs to pull its troops out and let the people of Iraq work this out.
Kasper asks a good question; "should US get involved in a civil war?"
I agree and think that we have been in Iraq long enough and the US should not get involed in a civil war, should one ensue. The negecting of the constitution further increases the chances of chaos and a possible civil war. Obama wants to pull out the troops by August 2010, but what if a civil war starts between now and then?
First of all, I agree with the Kurdish legislator's quote about the implimentation of the constitution in Iraq at this point, but only the first part. The constituion is not being upheld but contrary to what he says, it DOES make a difference. If an established format cannot be upheld the country has little chance to succeed and it will take longer for our troops to leave. They seem as anxious to be rid of us as we are to get home, so it DOES make a difference. But at the same time, I don't think the issue should be that it "violates Obama's vow"-thats something he set for this country and the Iraqis are trying to change somethign in thiers. Thier actions were NOT an attempt to violate this vow, but to do something for themselves. We should care that it violates THIER constituion. But, to put it blatantly, it just sucks for both countries.
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