Sunday, September 20, 2009

REQUIEM FOR A DREAM, LONG LIVE AMERICA

This will be my last post regarding president Obama and his ACTUAL agenda. I may comment in the future, but tomorrows posts, if any, will be on other topics.

You guys may keep quoting msnbc as long as you want. It still does not make it true. Still nothing but far left socialist propaganda. This discussion truly makes no sense to be continued if you cant tell the difference between freedom and dictatorship even when the dictatorship is laughing in your face. The discussion can only be continued when the two parties participating in the discussion are honest at least with themselves. And if you think you are, i'm afraid you're up for a big disappointment.

If you can't learn from the mistakes made by people a hundred, fifty, or even ten years ago, you will simply have to learn from your own. You're either in denial, or you're not strong enough to admit the mistakes in your beliefs. If you don't think they're mistakes, then you clearly think history can't repeat itself. I wonder how long you'd be willing to stay in denial. I wonder how hard your life has to get before you begin realizing your mistakes. And then how long it will be after that, before you start admitting them. It really isn't me that you're angry with, its not even all those angry mobs at town hall meetings and the tea baggers. What really bothers you is the lack of substance that the left party is experiencing when its time to answer questions raised by the true patriots of this country. It's so much easier to accuse them of racism than to simply deal with the questions being raised. Because you're being caught lying over and over again. And being stubborn after you realize that you've been wrong for so long really isn't the greatest sign of intelligence. I'm glad that at least on this blog you don't denegrate yourselves to the level of degenerate insults and threats that i've been recieving from so many of you in face to face conversations. Why would someone who has a good argument in their pocket belittle him or herself to the level of barbaric insults.

And if the teacher at school, is proud of the nickname commissar, if the teacher clearly favors one political party, and preaches that to his students, then i don't know what would be more of a clear indicator, that education is being politicized. I thought that that was not a role or job of a schoolteacher. Eerie how similar it is to the education in countries that we recognize as dictatorial. Every little similarity adds up. And i have shown, that there are many thats are more than little. If you can not see that, can you ever even tell the difference between truth and lying propaganda? How many times will we fall into the trap of "it cant happen here." It is happening here..

Wouldn't it be more simple for all of you to win this discussion simply by good argument. You couldn't could you. All of what i've seen so far has been pointless refutation of fact with myth and biased if not outright incorrect speculation. Please continue to preach that it can't happen here and then go out and read 1984 again, i don't think you did so carefully enough on the first run through. But if a communist dictatorship is what you really want, at least, be honest about it.

Im extracating myself from this discussion from this point on due to the lack of a WORTHY OPPONENT. Lets all agree, that time is truly the best judge of all. Lets let history run its course, and maybe in a year or two, the truth will become so apparent that nobody will be able to SPIN it.

2 comments:

Jack Rogers said...

Hey Victor, remember when I asked you for specific evidence of your crazy, ridiculous claims? And do you remember when you gave me a bunch of talking points from conservative talk radio? And then, do you remember when I refuted them one by one using actual evidence???

"All of what i've seen so far has been pointless refutation of fact with myth and biased if not outright incorrect speculation."

So, crazy speculation that Obama wants to create a "civilian national security force" is a fact, while a refutation from Factcheck.org is a myth. Okay.

Hey Victor, why don't you try to address what I said in the earlier thread, instead of speaking in hopeless generalities. 'Obama is a communist; people that call me names are really mean; my teacher is trying to indoctrinate me; why don't you people WAKE UP???'

Sorry if I'm not a "worthy enough opponent" for you.

Derek White said...

I think this comment is more of a political party debate more than anything. And I agree that our teacher has strong political views, but I also believe that he should be able to express them in the class. We are under no obligation to follow those beliefs and although I respect your political opinions, I do not appreciate you discrediting your peers. We all have different opinions and need to keep this as an open forum where we can all participate and share views without personally attacking one another.

-Derek White