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The Impeachment Inquires have resulted in Trump being called into the House of Representatives after five long weeks. Democrats have been uncertain whether they would want to call for a Trial or not because of public opinion but in the last 10 days it has shifted a great amount, well enough to want to call a trial. The vote came out 232-196 with two Democrats voting against impeachment. They cite their reasons as not wanting to anger any Republicans in their district as they have the majority. It also can be noted that they both voted for Trump in 2016 and cite that they do not believe enough evidence has been presented to be able to impeach Donald Trump.
The split between impeachment and acquitting is very partisan. There are, mentioned before, two Democrats that do not want to impeachment and one independent, cast out by the Republican party, that does want impeachment. This only shows the amount of polarization that has happened as almost 15 years ago you would have a lot of Representatives cross voting across party lines.
This is obviously a historic moment in American History. This could be the next Watergate, or yet another call for scandal as many people point out, there isn't a whole lot of evidence. None the less, this will be a moment in American History if we decide to let someone who has obviously been involved in shady business prevail. To me this will truly be the confirmation that Democracy has died here in the United States.
What do you think about the impeachment of Donald Trump (if you don't mind sharing)?
Do you believe that he can be impeached with a Republican majority in the senate?
5 comments:
My understanding of the situation is that Trump asked Ukraine to try to uncover information that would harm the reputation of Joe Biden, who he would likely be competing against in the 2020 election. Asking a power outside of the U.S. to potentially interfere with the outcome of a presidential election seems like an impeachable offense to me. I'm not sure whether the Republican Senate will actually remove him from office, especially since a supermajority of senators is needed. Considering 0 Republicans in the House voted to start the impeachment inquiry, it seems unlikely. On the other hand, if any Republicans do decide to vote for impeachment, it could help swing over others who didn't want to side against their party for fear of losing their office as well as Republicans who simply didn't want to be the first one to "switch sides."
I do think that Trump should be impeached because of this whole Ukraine scandal business. Also after the media indicated that China was also involved in this issue, it simply made his position look even worse. To add the cherry on top, many Americans are infuriated with how Trump did not support the Kurds against Turkey. This might cause a change in the number of people who want him impeached because of all of these events. Previously, through the CNN poll on October 23rd, 51% of Americans wanted him to be out of office. However, this might be difficult to happen because of the Republican majority in the senate. As of now, it is kind of difficult to call out how the future of his presidency might be because of all of these varying factors.
In an effort to diversify the comment section, I’m gonna claim that Trump shouldn’t be impeached. Not to say that impeaching him wouldn’t be the right thing to do, it’s just the nation is so polarized, I don’t think impeaching him will do any favors. Perhaps the only way for the other side to see his flaws is to let them witness what a full 8 years of his presidency will do to this nation. By impeaching him, and perhaps potentially removing him from office, Republicans will have an excuse for any hiccups in our nation’s future (even if we had Pence as president!). As for the second question, I don’t think it will pass through the senate. Unless Democrats can find a way to influence 6 Republicans, Trump will surely stay in office (although I can’t guarantee he won’t resign). Moving beyond the impeachment inquiry, if Trump were to be re-elected, do you guys think that Democrats would be able to take the senate? If so, how would it affect Trump’s second term?
I agree with what both Nick and Srimaye said regarding whether or not he should be impeached. I think that based on his actions, there's a very solid case for him being guilty of numerous offenses, with the most recent obviously being the Ukraine-Biden scandal, however once we begin breaking down the reality and absolute likelihood of Mr. Trump being impeached, the chances become thinner and thinner. There doesn't seem to yet be an overwhelming turn against Trump from the Republican Party as of yet (unfortunately imo), and this is largely a result of the extreme polarization which was only amplified upon his implementation as President between the two main parties. The case against him would have to be utterly undeniable for there to be a chance at him being impeached and this whole Ukraine ordeal is the closest we've come so far in my opinion. For now we'll just have to see, although with the current state of divide, it could go in a variety of different directions.
I agree with the general consensus in the comments that Trump SHOULD be impeached morally. However, I think Carlos has a really great point, impeaching Trump may turn him into a martyr and further polarize our nation. I actually believe that this very polarization is gonna stop the impeachment in its tracks. When our government has undergone impeachment inquiries before, we were nowhere near as polarized as we are now as a country. Even then, a president has never been officially removed from office because of impeachment, though it has encouraged presidents to resign like Nixon.
Because of these different factors and the incoming election, I think the impeachment will not happen, but President Trump will be negatively affected by all this bad press.
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